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Thievery, of course, isn't INTENDED to be a use case for AirTags.

That is truly the ONLY reason I ever purchased a set in the first place. Now they are useless to me. The majority of people aren't stalkers. The majority of people at some point have stuff stolen. Your point is just as irrelevant to me as the AirTags.
 
  • A more tamper-proof speaker, to reduce usage of AirTags for stalking.
Absolutely not! The airtags must have removable speakers. Their primary use is for placing an airtag in equipment, vehicles, trailers and must not alert the entity that stole it.
Buy a proper vehicle tracker then, with GPS. How many lawsuits against Apple because the AirTag alerted a thief? vs AirTag stalking suits? Can’t have it both ways. LOL.
 
Buy a proper vehicle tracker then, with GPS. How many lawsuits against Apple because the AirTag alerted a thief? vs AirTag stalking suits? Can’t have it both ways. LOL.
By the same token, you can say to the stalking victim to buy a proper tracking device locator then. The number of lawsuits claimed by the media doesn't represent true statistics. My wallet AirTag goes off every time I drive through the neighborhood. So does an AirTag I put on my wife's e-bike when we go on a ride. Some scared kids ping them furiously because they are told by Apple's flaky software that an AirTag is following them. There is a Reddit thread describing how people's AirTags are pinged constantly when they leave their house to go somewhere. People in apartment complexes seem to have it worse because everyone is living on top of each other and the software doesn't recognize that fact.
 
Uh, no?
Why would you ever want the speaker removed other than very questionable purposes?
This is one of the very few times where I’m actually completely in favor of Apple doing parts pairing. If someone tries to remove a speaker from an AirTag, the thing should become a brick.
A very good reason would be to hide it something you don’t want to be stolen (a bag, a bike, a car… ) so you can find it if it is.
 
Buy a proper vehicle tracker then, with GPS. How many lawsuits against Apple because the AirTag alerted a thief? vs AirTag stalking suits? Can’t have it both ways. LOL.
Don’t want to have it both ways. The AirTag stalking suits are just nonsense. Stalkers have countless ways to stalk people and there are better devices to do so. AirTag speaker should only be triggered when it’s owner wants it to be triggered.
 
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Thievery, of course, isn't INTENDED to be a use case for AirTags.

But you do you!
I've said it once, I'll say it again. I retrieved two of my stolen vehicles using AirTags, I've put them in all my valuables now (all with the speaker prised out). They work! but I get the need for anti-stalking - not against that but they're still great for tracking stolen property.
 
On a bus with a bunch of other tourists with luggage in the underneath, inevitably some will get notifications that are an AirTag is following them. What a failure on Apple’s part.
 
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On a bus with a bunch of other tourists with luggage in the underneath, inevitably some will get notifications that are an AirTag is following them. What a failure on Apple’s part.
I still don't get it. Isn't it supposed to send notifications only if separated from the owner for some time?
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That is truly the ONLY reason I ever purchased a set in the first place. Now they are useless to me. The majority of people aren't stalkers. The majority of people at some point have stuff stolen. Your point is just as irrelevant to me as the AirTags.
If you buy a crescent wrench and it does a lousy job of hammering in a nail ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is that Craftsman's fault, or yours? 🤔
 
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I agree I just replaced the one in my suitcase a few days ago only after I noticed I didn't see it in my find my app.. and then it says to me 3 days later the battery is low.
I just replaced all my batteries the other day after getting a warning of low battery for one of them, then a few days later I got the same warning. I was wondering if they automatically give you a yearly warning to replace, not going off the real battery charge. If they know what the charge is, why don't they show you the percentage ?
 
Uh, no?
Why would you ever want the speaker removed other than very questionable purposes?
This is one of the very few times where I’m actually completely in favor of Apple doing parts pairing. If someone tries to remove a speaker from an AirTag, the thing should become a brick.
To put one in your vehicle or backpack in case it gets stolen? Nothing questionable about that. And less expensive than installing a GPS tracker in your car
 
Our household has maybe... 20 or thereabouts AirTags. They've worked AMAZING on everything from equipment bags (one is hidden in my ski boot bag that gets left in the lodge), to airplane luggage (I've had them identify themselves *though* the floor of some planes when my bag is checked), to our cars (we've hidden them inside our vehicles as a low-tech Lojack). The 3x extended range is compelling, but not so much that I'd replace them all with newer models - maybe just in a few key items: the cars, the dog collar, a couple pieces of luggage.

What I'd really love from the 3rd Gen AirTag would be the ability to subscribe it to a cellular plan, much like the Apple Watch.
 
Uh, no?
Why would you ever want the speaker removed other than very questionable purposes?
This is one of the very few times where I’m actually completely in favor of Apple doing parts pairing. If someone tries to remove a speaker from an AirTag, the thing should become a brick.
1) If I have an AirTag on my bicycle and someone steals said bicycle, I do not want the thief to be notified I'm tracking them because they can then remove the AirTag and get away with my bike. 2) The AirTag on my dog's collar startles her when it randomly chimes.

Plenty of non-"questionable purposes" for removing the speaker when you don't assume the worst in others and use an imagination.
 
what I want is a thinner form factor with a god damn keyhole in it. I shouldn't need a special holder...
^^^^ This. Keyhole, which somehow they will make a "pentakeyring" forcing you to get the special 5-lobed Apple Keyrings but yeah, a regular keyring (like the one already built into my laptop bag for instance) would be way more reliable/cheaper than the leather/silicone iPhone holders.

Thinner would be huge if you could easily shove it in a wallet (like my wife who lost a wallet on a horseback ride in the Rockies. We found it, but ugh, an AirTag would have made that a 10 minute exercise off the trail rather than a 3 hour hike back at almost 9000'.

For me I don't care about the speaker, but get the idea of why they are important, but for me luggage tracking and not leaving without all my stuff is the key value here. And battery wise the CR battery is a better choice than charging, since rechargeable for a device like this is going to be something awkward as hell. I mean you either have to remove it (if it has a keyring hole for instance) to lay it on a watch charger) or have a usb-C port, which greatly limits the minimum thickness to the thickness of the connector, and makes it less environmentally tolerant. Also airlines won't be thrilled if every bag in the hold has a LiOn battery in it...
 
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