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I share your opinion on this topic. For this thing, too many of us Apple people seemed to have lost the ability to "think different." It takes only a little imagination to come up with a plethora of uses of this product. For example, this is another kind of cut at the same sort of thing "fold" and "roll"able screen devices are trying to deliver: mobile screens bigger than a brick in your pocket or screen in a bag... this one with no crease, no hinges, no scroll mechanisms.

If you ever wish for a screen bigger than the mobile one with you (iPhone, iPad, MB), this could deliver that out of the same bag... and delivery could be ANY size screen... not just a single size or only a little bigger screen... WITHOUT the scaling up of weight as you choose your bigger screen(s).

To your last point, this whole crowd DID passionately ridicule phablet-sized phones for YEARS before Apple went there: "one handed use", "pants with bigger pockets", man purses, developer fragmentation, et all. The word "abominations" was commonly slung. Then Apple rolled out iPhone Phablets and it's as if no one ever had such opinions... and later some of the same people were then ridiculing those who dared to call for smaller screen version of iPhones... and that continues right up to now.

When imaginations shrink too small, progress is hard to picture, feared and/or outright resisted. But soon this will go from imagination vapor to tangible reality. And I suspect much like the "abominations" of phablets, there will be a mass shift in opinion once what Vpro can do is fully revealed and able to be demoed in stores for the doubters.

Maybe if we can adopt some bigger man purses or pants with even bigger pockets, we can find a way to appreciate this entirely new thing from Apple once it can actually be experienced first hand? ;)
That was the most compelling thing for me from the demos; it's a room-sized screen that's not boxed into a rectangle. As long as the apps are useful enough (big if), it would make for a pretty great workspace.
 
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components like eg display and new form factors for cameras and such, sure, but not the entire product, not until they are ready to build prototypes at the supplier... all those products that are "planned" for 2027 at this stage are built internally ...
No, but a cheaper Vision will for example use less expensive panels or optics. Suppliers aren't stupid, they can deduce if something will be for a different and/or lower-cost product. And Apple can't build internal prototypes without sourcing specialized hardware. For the Vision Pro micro-OLED panels, they reportedly worked together with Sony for Sony to manufacture those specific panels.
 
And that's why you don't work for Apple. Remember this is about "spatial computing". The Vision Pro is just the start of a whole new world of products, experiences and opportunities. Today it's an over-the-eyes headset. Tomorrow it will be floating in your personal space, no headset required. You'll just "see" it. Maybe contact lenses.
Right, technology is magic. You just have to think different.
 
Yeah, $3,500 is pretty steep for a new type of unproven tech. Much cheaper VR headsets like Oculus from Meta have been available for awhile and the tech hasn’t taken off. I just don’t see it becoming the next big thing. Perhaps in the future when they can shrink such tech into regular looking glasses… or perhaps when Apple can lower the price of Vision Pro for the masses. It may be a cool technology. And I know some youtubers like Marques Brownlee has called the Vision Pro the closest thing to magic he’s experienced. But I just don’t see it catching on… at least not anytime soon.
 
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Now who’s going to bother to develop for a user base of 400k when you can just release a dumb IAP game for the millions on iOS is the real question
iPhone, much less smartphones will never be perpetually the dominant billions of users platform.

For those with the long view...
 
Without a "cheaper" model, this product will fail because developers won't have a reason to develop for such a small consumer base. The cheaper model would be worth producing just for that fact alone.
Wrong — Apple has designed it so iOS/iPad apps will be fully usable on visionOS with little work. Native Vision Pro apps will come, but it will take some time because the environment is so new, and Apple understands this.
 
That was the most compelling thing for me from the demos; it's a room-sized screen that's not boxed into a rectangle. As long as the apps are useful enough (big if), it would make for a pretty great workspace.

I see this particular benefit so clearly and yet too many seem to lack an ability to see this at all. Stick this and a keyboard or bottom half of a MB in a bag and you have the much desired 17" MB... and an 18" MB... and a 20"MB... and a 27" MB... and a 50" MB wherever you want to do anything on a laptop. If we're willing to shell out $2499 for "starting at" for 16" MB now, what would we pay for a 20" MB or a 27" MB?

Want a 27" iMac before Apple decides to make one? Here it is... along with the 30" that some want, the 32" others want and a 40" and 50" one too. Ultra-wide iMac anyone? How about TWO ultra-wides?

Want an iPad Mini for small size and light weight? Want an iPad Max for big screen size? Want a BIGGER iPad Max than Apple has made yet? Instead of buying 3 iPads, how about let one purchase come with all screen sizes and then some?

Wish you could bring your biggest TV with you on your travels? Watch your big screen on the plane? In the hotel? Or how about an even bigger screen in such places?

Here it all is... all in the SAME package at the SAME weight for a SINGLE price.

Make it do this one thing well- an ANY-size screen available for any mobile purposes- and I'm sold, even if it does nothing else. I paid about $2K for a rigidly-fixed size desktop screen, far too heavy & cumbersome to probably ever move from where it sits right now. I love it for the productivity having plenty of screen gives me. When I have to shift from it to a "tiny" 16" MBpro screen, that productivity plunges. Vpro offers the ability to have the big screen with me wherever I go/am.

I hope it can do this one thing well. If $2K for a forever-anchored, single-sized screen is easily justified, $1500 more for one that can be with me anywhere I travel seems like quite a great buy to me.
 
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Just the fact that they called it “Vision Pro” makes it very clear to me they want to release a low cost version. They would’ve just called it “Apple Vision” if that’s the only version they planned to release.
 
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What is going on with Apple they have lost the plot and their plans are all over the place, software is minor and hardware has become minor changes, what happened to Apple, maybe stop with cancelling leather and focus on important stuff

There was never a cheaper version to begin with. Kuo made a guess because he believes “cheap” means “sales”. He got it wrong and he now he’s backtracking.
 
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No, but a cheaper Vision will for example use less expensive panels or optics. Suppliers aren't stupid, they can deduce if something will be for a different and/or lower-cost product. And Apple can't build internal prototypes without sourcing specialized hardware. For the Vision Pro micro-OLED panels, they reportedly worked together with Sony for Sony to manufacture those specific panels.
And Apple has NDAs in place with all their suppliers, and if those suppliers talk too much, Apple ditches them. Like eg that company bragging on their sensors (name escapes me) in the IPO filing and Apples share if their biz resulting in them going bankrupt. You are correct, most suppliers aren’t stupid…
 
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And that's why you don't work for Apple. Remember this is about "spatial computing". The Vision Pro is just the start of a whole new world of products, experiences and opportunities. Today it's an over-the-eyes headset. Tomorrow it will be floating in your personal space, no headset required. You'll just "see" it. Maybe contact lenses.
Will Timo replace his glasses with it?
 
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Just the fact that they called it “Vision Pro” makes it very clear to me they want to release a low cost version. They would’ve just called it “Apple Vision” if that’s the only version they planned to release.

Unless as joked often, PRO to Apple stands for PROfit. Brand it pro to command a premium price (and profit).

From here, they can append MAX & ULTRA just was easily as we can speculate they drop PRO to cut revenue & profit per unit sold. Only one of those seems much more likely to me. 💰💰💰
 
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