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Apple TV YouTube App Rolling Out 4K Support

GadgetBen said:
You need the top HDMI cables for this to work.
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mmk.

all hdmi cables are built the same. it is up to the ports on the devices to actually maintain the requisite hdmi spec (hdmi 1.4b, 2.0, 2.1, etc)

there are cables on the market now with 48gbps throughput to support the bandwidth of the 2.1 spec. these are regulated, so other than the physical construction of a particular brand's cable, they're all the same.

if you intend of using anything hdmi 2.1 any time soon, that is to say you have or will be getting a TV with hdmi 2.1 and say a new console in november or graphics card for your PC from this fall's launch windows, then get cables with 48gbps bandwidth.

otherwise, an 18gbps cable will suffice for your setup until that upgrade comes to you.

please do not fall for "you need top HDMI cables" as the approach to buying cables, this just makes people keep companies like MONSTER in business when they try selling these insanely expensive 6ft hdmi cables for $60+ where the $10 cable would have done the exact same thing

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Premium HDMI Cable Certification Program, HDMI cables for their 4K/UltraHD products that may include features such as 4K@60Hz, BT.2020 and HDR. Trust the cable with the label; HDMI 2.1b
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the organization behind hdmi makes it abundantly clear how to identify a cable's ability to do the work you need so these absurd marketing schemes don't fool you.
 
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ThatGuyInLa said:
Yes that’s one of the handful of sets that does. Heh. Sony has two TV models that can. Ps4 and Chromecast Ultra can and that’s about it.
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You must have checked the wrong specs, out of Sony TVs of current lineup only two does not offer HDR. My old 2018 LG supports it. It is widely available. But it is the content that’s lacking.
 
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JediStreamer said:
I wish YouTube would offer a $4.99 plan for an ad-free YouTube only experience. I have no desire to pay $11.99.
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Same here.

You're basically paying for an entire music streaming service... and getting ad-free Youtube as a side benefit.

And that begs the question... how much of that $12 a month is for the music service... and how much is offsetting the money they would have made in Youtube ads?

Youtube is an advertising company, after all.

And music streaming services typically cost $10 a month.
 
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One of the new tvOS 14 features highlighted by Apple was support for watching 4K videos in the YouTube app, but when tvOS 14 launched, Apple TV 4K users quickly noticed that support wasn't available.

youtube4kvideo.jpg

That appears to be changing, as there are reports on Reddit (via FlatpanelsHD) that support for 4K YouTube videos is starting to roll out. Multiple users have reported seeing 4K playback options in the YouTube app on tvOS 14, tvOS 14.0.1, and tvOS 14.2.

4K support has not yet rolled out to all users, however, as in our tests, we were not able to access 4K YouTube content and continued to have a 1080p limitation. While 4K content appears to be available, those with access are still not able to enable HDR, and 4K videos are limited to 30 frames per second.

It's unclear if the lack of HDR is temporary or a limitation on the 4K Apple TV, and it's also not known when 4K content will be available for all. It seems to be rolling out though, so there may not be too much longer to wait. YouTube in September said that Apple TV 4K would support 4K YouTube playback "soon."

Article Link: Apple TV YouTube App Rolling Out 4K Support
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And where’s the fix for iPad Pro??
 
rog said:
6 years after my 5K iMac and it can't show 4K Youtube in Safari. ATV 4K has been out for years and still cannot play 4k video recorded on iOS devices.
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Big Sur beta 9 does 4K/8k VP9 YouTube as a FYI. It will eventually be out for people, but seems to be regional limited for the 4K YouTube presently.

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Finally I see it playing 4K on my ATV4K rechecking this now. So it must have been a region by region roll out as said.
 
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Michael Scrip said:
Same here.

You're basically paying for an entire music streaming service... and getting ad-free Youtube as a side benefit.

And that begs the question... how much of that $12 a month is for the music service... and how much is offsetting the money they would have made in Youtube ads?

Youtube is an advertising company, after all.

And music streaming services typically cost $10 a month.
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Yeah, a crappy music streaming service that I can’t even run in split-screen on my iPad.

Maybe the plan is make the app so bad that people won’t use it, meaning google pays out less in royalties.
 
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Abazigal said:
Yeah, a crappy music streaming service that I can’t even run in split-screen on my iPad.

Maybe the plan is make the app so bad that people won’t use it, meaning google pays out less in royalties.
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YTM music catalog blows all others out of the water with its integration with YT. In addition to normal catalog, many live one offs, covers, unknown groups, non main stream music styles, world music, acoustical performances that no one else has. I have never used any music app in split screen, so that’s not important to me.
 
burgman said:
YTM music catalog blows all others out of the water with its integration with YT. In addition to normal catalog, many live, one off, covers, unknown groups, acoustical performances that no one else has. I have never used any music app in split screen, so that’s not important to me.
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Even as I type this right now, I am marking my students’ work. My ipad is in front of me, with notability (so I can reference the solutions) and Apple Music open in split-screen mode. I can’t even run YouTube music in slide over mode, so it has proven to be too inconvenient to access when I want to change the music I am listening to.

The nice thing are the music videos, but I wonder why youtube doesn’t just fold this into their youtube app (which does support split-screen and hopefully, PIP soon) when for all intents and purposes, it just looks like a neglected and outdated youtube clone.
 
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Eorlas said:
mmk.

all hdmi cables are built the same. it is up to the ports on the devices to actually maintain the requisite hdmi spec (hdmi 1.4b, 2.0, 2.1, etc)

there are cables on the market now with 48gbps throughput to support the bandwidth of the 2.1 spec. these are regulated, so other than the physical construction of a particular brand's cable, they're all the same.

if you intend of using anything hdmi 2.1 any time soon, that is to say you have or will be getting a TV with hdmi 2.1 and say a new console in november or graphics card for your PC from this fall's launch windows, then get cables with 48gbps bandwidth.

otherwise, an 18gbps cable will suffice for your setup until that upgrade comes to you.

please do not fall for "you need top HDMI cables" as the approach to buying cables, this just makes people keep companies like MONSTER in business when they try selling these insanely expensive 6ft hdmi cables for $60+ where the $10 cable would have done the exact same thing

Ultra High Speed HDMI Cable - Bandwidth Up To 48Gbps

Looking for a high speed HDMI cable? ✓ Click here to learn about high speed vs ultra high speed HDMI cable specifications & certification program compliance! HDMI 2.1b
www.hdmi.org www.hdmi.org

Premium High Speed HDMI® Cable

Premium HDMI Cable Certification Program, HDMI cables for their 4K/UltraHD products that may include features such as 4K@60Hz, BT.2020 and HDR. Trust the cable with the label; HDMI 2.1b
www.hdmi.org www.hdmi.org

the organization behind hdmi makes it abundantly clear how to identify a cable's ability to do the work you need so these absurd marketing schemes don't fool you.
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I read this a lot. And I get it’s probably true for most bog standard 1080p stuff. But since getting a high end TV and Audio set up last year you’d be surprised how many niggly problems have been fixed with a more expensive HDMI cable. I’m not saying you have to spend hundreds but there’s a clear difference between cheap Amazon one and the one Apple sells for around 30 for example. Dolby Vision handshakes faster. Changing HDMI cables for my Xbox fixed the audio lag. pass through audio issues. All fixed with better HDMI cables.
 
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Superhai said:
You must have checked the wrong specs, out of Sony TVs of current lineup only two does not offer HDR. My old 2018 LG supports it. It is widely available. But it is the content that’s lacking.
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Most content is HDR these days. I have over 400 HDR iTunes movies alone. That’s not to mention everything on Disney plus and Netflix ect.
 
JediStreamer said:
I wish YouTube would offer a $4.99 plan for an ad-free YouTube only experience. I have no desire to pay $11.99.
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Use a VPN and connect to India, (HolaVPN has a 3 day trial on iOS.) Then use a browser to go to YouTube.com, sign in and order 3 months prepaid for 399 Rupees (which is $5.43 USD). Repeat as many times as you want. Disconnect from VPN and you’re done. 2 years of YouTube Premium including YouTube Music would be $43.44 total. Prepaid. EZ
 
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Abazigal said:
Even as I type this right now, I am marking my students’ work. My ipad is in front of me, with notability (so I can reference the solutions) and Apple Music open in split-screen mode. I can’t even run YouTube music in slide over mode, so it has proven to be too inconvenient to access when I want to change the music I am listening to.

The nice thing are the music videos, but I wonder why youtube doesn’t just fold this into their youtube app (which does support split-screen and hopefully, PIP soon) when for all intents and purposes, it just looks like a neglected and outdated youtube clone.
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Like I said not important to me. With premium subscription I can run videos in audio mode only, I don’t watch many music videos.Most of the catalog is available on both platforms, when Google Play Music finally goes away hopefully some “polish” will be applied.
 
burgman said:
Like I said not important to me. With premium subscription I can run videos in audio mode only, I don’t watch many music videos.Most of the catalog is available on both platforms, when Google Play Music finally goes away hopefully some “polish” will be applied.
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We can only hope. As of now, it’s basically a $12 monthly option to block ads on YouTube which to me, is still well worth the money.
 
4k30 or 1440p60 worked and HDR videos are not passing through HDR signal. I was testing using my ATV4k through YouTube app with no updates which suggests what everybody's saying the change was made on YT servers. Wonder if we'll ever get 4k60 with HDR10 sometime if YT is thinking to do phased rollouts. I am on the US East Coast.
 
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