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Trial Production of Apple's Next-Gen Chip Technology to Begin Next Week

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Apple chipmaker TSMC will begin test production of 2nm chips next week ahead of plans to bring the technology to Apple silicon next year, ET News reports.

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The trial production run will occur at TSMC's Baoshan plant in northern Taiwan. Equipment designed for 2nm chip production was brought to the facility in the second quarter of this year. Apple is expected to move its custom silicon to the 2nm process in 2025.

The iPhone 15 Pro is powered by the A17 Pro chip, which is manufactured with TSMC's 3nm process. This process allows for more transistors to be packed into a smaller space, delivering improvements in performance and efficiency. Apple's M4 chip, which recently debuted in the new iPad Pro, uses an enhanced version of this ‌‌3nm‌‌ technology. The transition to 2nm chips should bring further improvements, with projected performance gains of 10 to 15 percent and power consumption reductions of up to 30 percent compared to the ‌‌3nm‌‌ process.

TSMC plans to begin mass production of 2nm chips next year and it is believed that the company has been accelerating the process to secure a stable yield before mass production. TSMC remains the only company capable of manufacturing 2nm and ‌3nm‌ chips at the scale and quality Apple requires. For its ‌‌3nm‌‌ chips, Apple booked all of TSMC's available chipmaking capacity, and the chipmaker plans to triple its production capacity for the node by the end of the year to meet soaring demand. 2nm chips could first appear in 2025's iPhone 17 lineup.

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> TSMC remains the only company capable of manufacturing 2nm and ‌3nm‌ chips at the scale and quality Apple requires.

2nm yield has yet to be proven so bold statement to declare it at the scale and quality Apple requires.
 
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sinoka56 said:
> TSMC remains the only company capable of manufacturing 2nm and ‌3nm‌ chips at the scale and quality Apple requires.

2nm yield has yet to be proven so bold statement to declare it at the scale and quality Apple requires.
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2025 seems overly ambitious. I think we’ll see a 3rd gen 3nm before 2nm
 
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I look forward to these SOC's as now Apple will definitely increase the GPU and NPU massively for the coming AI wave. The shared memory is also being extremely useful for AI, and I expect them to at least double the available SOC memory. I didn't mention the CPU at all as everything is fine there.
 
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For those who blather on about planned obsolescence, get a clue. Obsolescence is part of the evolution of technology. I’m sure the new Apple Silicon will provide the ability for new features and functions that older hardware can’t support. So when new hardware is released that surpasses the old don’t start ragging about how Apple is doing this on purpose to “force” you to buy new gear. It ain’t so.
 
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sinoka56 said:
> TSMC remains the only company capable of manufacturing 2nm and ‌3nm‌ chips at the scale and quality Apple requires.

2nm yield has yet to be proven so bold statement to declare it at the scale and quality Apple requires.
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that is true about yield. it is also true that no other semiconductor manufacturer is at 3 nm. intel used to brag that they were 2 generations ahead. now, they’re like 3-4 generations behind.
 
lkrupp said:
For those who blather on about planned obsolescence, get a clue. Obsolescence is part of the evolution of technology. I’m sure the new Apple Silicon will provide the ability for new features and functions that older hardware can’t support. So when new hardware is released that surpasses the old don’t start ragging about how Apple is doing this on purpose to “force” you to buy new gear. It ain’t so.
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AI has a high battery power draw. better chips are needed
 
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I think the interesting question is: at what process node will Apple's desire for bigger and bigger SoC (re: transistor count) finally go beyond the processes' reticle limit, forcing Apple to move to a chiplet architecture.

I'm sure Apple will be fine with the A19 at 2nm (if that is what happens), but if the M6 Max is based on that, it might need a very different looking architecture?

This is not a matter of "if", just a matter of "when Apple moves to interposed chiplets".

The benefit is, this could open up FAR more scaling opportunities for future M* Ultra and M* Quadra packages.
 
gonna use a 2019 Mac Pro til 2025. then purchase a 2nm Mac Studio Max 1 TB 64gb ram when available.

not getting an ultra. overkill. most people just use high end Macs cause they care about shaving a few minutes off renders. not me. I find a build it yourself PC to be a better well rounded computer.
 
Intel was talking about 18A/14A and claiming they’d regain leadership by 2026, and TSMC was like okay, enough of all that talk, full steam ahead on 2nm!
 
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The chip technology since iPhone and now Apple Silicon has been one of the most exciting things to follow. It's incredible that we are about surpass nanometers as the unit of measure in the very foreseeable future. Taking a moment to think about what an A17 Pro is capable of, and how much one could do with just that as far as productivity and computing are concerned is really astonishing, and how powerful the M3 and M4 are in a desktop operating system. And the future is looking very bright.
 
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Darren.h said:
gonna use a 2019 Mac Pro til 2025. then purchase a 2nm Mac Studio Max 1 TB 64gb ram when available.

not getting an ultra. overkill. most people just use high end Macs cause they care about shaving a few minutes off renders. not me. I find a build it yourself PC to be a better well rounded computer.
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2025 is rumoured to be when the first 2nm SoC comes out. It probably won't be until sometime in late 2026 when the Mac Studio Max gets the M6 Max (?) at 2nm?
 
lkrupp said:
For those who blather on about planned obsolescence, get a clue. Obsolescence is part of the evolution of technology. I’m sure the new Apple Silicon will provide the ability for new features and functions that older hardware can’t support. So when new hardware is released that surpasses the old don’t start ragging about how Apple is doing this on purpose to “force” you to buy new gear. It ain’t so.
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Apple’s history has proven not. If there is money to be made be sure Apple is at the forefront (also historically true 😜)
 
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